Legend of the GLORIO Heroes Episode 9: You’ll Never Be Good Enough For Kircheis

We continue across the sea of stars, where Gee and Iro watch the seminal 1988-1997 Legend of the Galactic Heroes OVA a few episodes at a time. Keep an eye out for this podcast between main installments of The GLORIO Chat as we work our way through the history books.

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Opening Song: Sea of Stars
Interlude Song: Fourth Battle of Tiamat (Bolero composed by Maurice Ravel)
Ending Song: Crossing the Bridge of Light (Orchestral Version)

Show Notes

This installment covers episodes:

  • 25. The Day Before Destiny
  • 26. Farewell Distant Days

01:42 – Episode 25

02:25 – The Reckoning between Kircheis and Reinhard

06:55 – Flashbacks!

08:49 – Annerose’s Voice Mail

11:40 – Oberstein’s Advice

13:42 – The Fateful Meeting

17:46 – Ansbach smuggled in some Real Shit

23:40 – Episode 26

29:00 – Called It

33:17 – “What do we do next?”

40:41 – The Third Coup

44:09 – Reinhard’s Coping Mechanisms

50:00 – Reinhard! Don’t do that!

54:46 – Duty to Humanity

57:39 – Phezzan gonna Phezzan

1:01:15 – The Tribunal of Paul von Oberstein

1:08:44 – Contrast between the sides

1:11:41 – B R E A K

1:12:02 – Part 2 – Season 1 Roundup

1:15:02 – General thoughts so far?

1:24:29 – Siegfried Kircheis

1:30:00 – What the fuck is Oberstein’s deal?

1:36:14 – The Roast and Inquisition of Jel and Marlin

1:42:30 – Legend of the Galactic Heroes‘ Reputation

1:49:12 – The Competence Zone

1:56:24 – Why is the show relevant 30 years later?

2:05:18 – Yang Wenli Presents: “Who is your favorite character?”

2:20:10 – Favorite Moment / Episode?

2:28:10 – Who is the hottest? Who would be the best husbando?

2:37:17 – Yang Wenli is a good take factory

2:45:29 – Can YOU name everyone in the OP and ED?

2:53:02 – Baseless Speculation

3:19:05 – Housekeeping

And don’t forget that Legend of the Galactic Heroes is available for streaming on HIDIVE!

3 thoughts on “Legend of the GLORIO Heroes Episode 9: You’ll Never Be Good Enough For Kircheis

  1. I’m surprised a couple of scenes in these episodes weren’t brought up. Spoilers from the show below.

    Reinhard’s talk with Reuenthal ended with Reinhard literally telling Reuenthal that he and the other admirals are free to rebel when they think they are ready.

    Reinhard’s implied death wish because of guilt aside of all the people it had to be Reuenthal to be the one to hear it. Reuenthal has from limited scenes low key questioned Reinhard. When Siegfried got the job to put down Kastrop Rebellion Reuenthal explained to Mittermeyer that it was a play to give Siegfried the prestige to be worth promoting to become the number 2.

    And just after Reinhard and Siegfried had their fight over the nuke another scene of Reuenthal and Mittermeyer occured and Reuenthal actually sided with Oberstein’s point of view and said he has a point of number 2’s being bad while Mittermeyer said it was fine since it worked.

    The argument over the nuke ended with the relationship of master and servant emphasized over friendship and they both seemed in shock over what occurred while its conclusion came later with Reinhard making a tomb for Kircheis and the epitaph is simply Mein Freund. It’s funny that looking up the word it says its my friend but with a romantic relationship more fuel to the fire it seems. I know the Reinhard would trade everything to get Kircheis back was talked about but this scene is a nice way to cap it off.

    Lastly, i’m frankly shocked no one talked about Oberstein actually shielding Reinhard with own body from the assassin. Aside from Kircheis the hero only Oberstein moved. For me it seems to be hard evidence that Oberstein prioritizes Reinhard over Oberstein’s own well being which is a break from his character trope of the self interested vizier.

    I was also one of the people that thought Kircheis would not die just yet. I thought the estrangement would continue for some time until they reconciled or their friendship ended in a rebellion. I do agree Kircheis died before the show could make him suffer more though. Died saving the person he loved the most except maybe his sister.

    My two cents on the Oberstein talk is that it was merely an unintended consequence of his actions. He even literally tells Reinhard he doesn’t want Kirchies purged just don’t give him special treatment. As for the assassin I don’t think it was Oberstein’s department to provide security being an advisor so there is that.

    I think Ansbach wasn’t actually a prisoner. In the previous episodes one of Reinhard’s spies was trying to talk some nobles into killing Braunschweig as their way to change sides this late in the war. Coincidentally that same spy was the one that ratted Ansbach out and got him imprisoned in the first place and was seen reporting to Ferner that curly haired guy with the white hair during the capture of the fortress.

    I figured Anshach’s plan was to be the one to kill Braunschweig to get an audience which he totally did because it was an empire suicide and since he’s not a prisoner and clearly against the nobles since he killed his boss the biggest noble he could smuggle in some weapons. The rocket launcher being a poor choice can be chalked up to the guy just being another advisor type that doesn’t know jack about actual fighting.

    Looking forward to the next episode!

    PS the two FPA dudes next to Cazellnu are Rosen Ritters, they were the two dudes with Schenkopp when he took the fortress. The brown hair is actually the guy that fell and climbed back on his rope. The blonde I think is Schenkopp number two.

  2. I don’t remember if you talked about this, but I watched episode 26 with (what were claimed to be) the HiDive subs, and just fyi there’s a pretty serious mistranslation re: Lichtenlade’s role in the whole situation – or rather, the lack thereof. Contrary to what the subtitles would have you believe, Lichtenlade had nothing to do with the assassination attempt (this one, anyway). Oberstein is creating an enemy for Reinhard to take revenge on, to be able to move forward; while using the opportunity to get rid of Lichtenlade. The one Mittermeier is disgusted with and wouldn’t want as his enemy is Oberstein, because although he sees his point and can’t argue with it considering the situation all of them are in, he still thinks it’s deeply dishonorable.

    I don’t know what the translator didn’t understand here because it’s all pretty obvious from the dialogue (and from the novel as well).

    • We do talk about it. The conclusion I personally came to was that Lichtenlade being the mastermind behind the assassination was such a politically expedient and conveniently plausible move that it had to have been a frame job by Oberstein.

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