We might not be The Avengers, but nevertheless Team GLORIO USA has assembled for an honest discussion about Netflix and the state of how we watch anime in 2018.
Opening Song: “Emotional literacy” by BRADIO
2:26 Quick shout out to Full Metal Panic and HInamatsuri for laser targeting themselves to Gee and Jel’s anime tastes
8:27 The Crunchyroll and Funimation Partnership – a short lived magical anime streaming utopia
12:45 The rise and fall of Anime Strike and the problems with anime on Amazon
22:36 The Anime Network rises from the grave as HIDIVE
30:30 The history of Netflix and anime and why it hasn’t been a good fit
49:53 The Violet Evergarden Situation and moving backwards
(The ANN Netflix column that made me angry)
53:50 Actual original content is OK (probably)
56:30 The importance of community watching
1:04:28 The Big Question: is it OK to go back to fansubs?
1:11:11 If you can’t beat ’em, join ’em: What Netflix could learn from the Crunchyroll Story
(Minor clarification: In 2009 Crunchyroll struck a deal with TV Tokyo, which included shares in the company. This deal got them Naruto Shippuden and made them clean out all unlicensed content. The rest is history.)
1:13:36 Netflix is the new TV and could do a lot of good for the growth of anime
1:17:32 Will Netlfix change their anime strategy in the future?
4 thoughts on “The GLORIO Chat Episode 12: 6 Reasons Netflix is Killing Anime – Number 4 Will Shock You!”
“One group of people having access to it while another group doesn’t is the crux of the problem”… hah, now you know what being an anime fan outside the US feels like. As someone located in a country in Central Europe, do we have Crunchyroll? Sure, since a few years ago. Netflix? Since about two years. Amazon video? Since last year. (Hulu, HiDive, etc – nope.) But their catalogues are still pathetic, pared-down versions of their US catalogue, with so many shows simply not being available in my region. Here I am, card in my hand, ready to support the industry and whatnot, and the industry is like “we want your money but we won’t give you what you want in exchange.” (I mean, at least Japan is honest about this. Do you have a Japanese address/IP address/card issued in Japan? No? Then you ain’t getting our digital content, sorry not sorry.)
From where I stand, I do agree with a lot of your arguments about Netflix (especially the community aspect, I mean, anyone remembers Fune wo amu? such a good show that barely anyone watched because Netflix decided to hold onto it for a binge release, and by that time nobody remembered that it even existed), I’d say its business model is still not “killing anime” as much as region blocks do.
By the way, watching anime on YouTube? You kids were spoiled rotten. I remember watching Evangelion in Vivo Player’s proprietary .viv format… with half an episode being like 5 MB or something. Those were the days.
– Thank you for bringing up the region locking. I realized after recording this was a very American-centric discussion and we probably should have had one of our European members join in.
Region locking used to be somewhat of an issue for us in the days before the CR/Funimation partnership but at least we had options. The Violet Evergarden situation was a rare example of true region locking and that was extremely frustrating. That was only one show, I can’t imagine dealing with that all the time.
– Vivo player is pretty good but BACK IN MY DAY there was no internet and I would buy (or convince my older friends with jobs to buy) fan subbed bootleg VHS tapes from the shady import store in the next town over. Those were fun times.
Haha, I was just being bitter, region locking is sort of my pet issue. Even in Europe things can be very different in each country, which is actually the largest thorn in my side, not being legally able to watch or even read something that is legally available literally one country away, in the same EU. (Well, I speak Japanese so at least I can contribute by buying ebooks in weird formats that can be read only on proprietary software… thanks, Japan.)
And oh sure, I’ve been around since VHS as well. I still have some tapes lying around that I didn’t have the heart to throw out, even though I don’t have anything to watch them on anymore. Although funnily enough over here anime fandom started off when we started getting German channels on TV, airing anime dubbed in German. To this day I don’t think there’s any woman of my generation who was ever into anime and did not have a crush on André and/or Oscar form Rose of Versailles at one point.
Yeah, I also have a pet peeve with region locking. Especially since I can’t access Crunchyroll at all, despite actually living in Japan, which has to win me at least irony points.